Discovery Bay Ladies in NCGA Golf Plus – June 2021

Hello Ladies,

What a surprise seeing all of you on the NCGA website. You all look so beautiful, and, of course, we know you are great golfers! I believe this picture appears in the June issue of NCGA Golf Plus – congrats!

You are stars!

Doris

Correction – Relief from goose poop

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> Hi,
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> After the Advisory Board notes went out I talked to Hilary and Tim’s response about the relief if your ball lands on goose poop is incorrect. The goose poop is considered a loose impediment and if you move your ball to remove goose poop it is a penalty. If the poop is near your ball you can move the poop, but you cannot move your ball to remove the poop. I did send this information to Tim but have not heard anything back from him. I would go by the USGA rules of loose impediment. >
> Sorry for the confusion.
> Donna
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> Donna Grover

Play Day Results-May 25, 2021

Hi All,

We had 30 ladies play today and we were welcomed inside for lunch without a mask! Progress!

Today’s results:

1st Flight:
Jan Murphy – net 31 $9.00
Cindy Aafedt – net 32 $7.00
Lisa Ferrante – net 34 $4.00

2nd Flight:
Bonnie Ladd – net 32 $9.00
Fran Grace – net 33 $7.00
Frances Shipilov – net 34 $4.00

3rd Flight:
Joanne Smith – net 34 $9.00
Fe Estrera – net 36 $5.50
Doris Bunnell – net 36 $5.50

Birdies:
Lisa Ferrante Hole 6
Jan Murphy Hole 1
Fran Grace Hole 17
Cindy Aafedt Hole 6

Chip In’s: $15.00 each
Fran Grace Hole 6
Fe Estrera Hole 15

Closest to the Pin: 0-26 Handicap
Hole 2 Annette Krey 19′ 3″
Hole 7 Lisa Ferrante 10′ 5″
Hole 14 Frances Shipilov 7’7″

Closest to the Pin: 27-36 Handicap
Hole 2 Deborah Veatch 90′
Hole 7 Bonnie Ladd 37′ 9.5″
Hole 14 Deborah Veatch 43′ 8.5″

Thanks for your participation,

Jill Chase

Notes from Advisory Board-May 20, 2021

> Regarding things related to COVID such as the cart dividers, hooks in the holes, and ice on the course – much of this is driven by restrictions and people still wanting to be cautious. The club will start to take some of the dividers out and leave those carts on one side (near the entry to the cart area) and leave those with dividers over by the pro shop. It would be great if more people would share carts. You are allowed to take out the flag when putting. Ice on the course is a common area and may come after June 15. >
> An ice machine has been ordered and should arrive in the next couple of weeks. This will be placed near the pro shop. >
> Weekly group play – ladies have 3 events in June, with shotgun starts. Hopefully by July it will be every week but this hasn’t been decided quite yet. Sign-ups will cut-off 7 days prior so be sure to sign-up when available. >
> Tuesdays are still a slow day for the restaurant – please enjoy a meal after your round. The Fairway room is available for the Ladies on Tuesday and can hold the number of ladies playing. >
> Bunker on 10 is still being worked on. It should be complete by June 15. When they are not working in the bunker the regular green should be open to use. >
> All benches on the course will be looked at and painted/repaired as needed. >
> White folding chairs on the patio will be looked at to ensure they are in good repair. >
> Member appreciation day – July 4.
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> Course is in good shape – lots of fertilizing has been done. We know the geese are a problem and there’s not much we can do about it. They are actually protected by Federal Law. However, DO NOT FEED THE GEESE!!! If your ball lands in goose poop you can take relief under abnormal ground conditions. >
> Thanks for your input.
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> Donna
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> Donna Grover
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Play Day Results-May 18, 2021

Hello Ladies,

We had a beautiful day for golf! It was fun to once again hold our Closest-to-the-Pin and Chip-In competitions. After golf, we met upstairs for food, drink, and game result announcements . . . practically “normal.”

Seventeen ladies participated in Cha-Cha-Cha. Here are the results:

First Place Team Total Net of 122 Winning $20 for the team / $5 each:
Terry Billingham
Deborah Martin
Kris Rogers
Fe Estrera

Second Place Team Total Net of 126 Winning $14 for the team / $3.50 each:
Cathy Houston
Conchita Christensen
Sandy Mize
Sonja Welin

Chip-In:
Sophia Yu Hole 12 $16 (CASH!)

Closest-to-the-Pin:
Hole 2 – Handicap 0-25: Cathy Houston – 5’3”
Hole 2 – Handicap 26-36: Sally Sturney – 6’10”
Hole 14 – Handicap 0-25: Cindy Aafedt – 12’10”
Hole 14 – Handicap 26-36: None

The three ladies won $5.25 each

Birdies – Winning “Honorable Mention”:
Cindy Aafedt Hole #2 and Hole #14
Kay Bargmann Hole #17
Terry Billingham Hole #1
Cathy Houston Hole #17
Sally Sturney Hole #2

Congratulations to all the ladies who played today.

Please sign up for our next Play Day on Tuesday, May 25. Details to follow from the Tournament Committee.

Thanks for a great day!

Doris and Sally

Spring Handicap Results

After 2 days of play our 2021 Champion Is Becky Heagle. She made a great comeback on the second day to win. Net 74-64 for a 138.
She received for her efforts $70 Pro Shop gift certificate, a potted plant, and the coveted fleece vest!!

Flight winners received Pro Shop gift certificates and first place also received a small, yet cute potted succulent.

Flight 1
Donna Ybarra 146 $55
Cathy Houston 150 $30

Flight 2
Debbie Martin 142 $65
Sandy Smith 147 $30

Flight 3
Kay Bargman 153 $55
Kris Rogers 156 $35
Joanne Smith 159 $20 Joanne won the card off on the back 9 from Bonnie Ladd.

Chip ins $10 each
April 6 Jenny Dillon #9
April 13 Jenny Dillon #5 Cindy Renshaw #11

Birdies
April 6 None
April 13 Jenny Dillon #5 Terry Billingham #11 Cindy Aafedt #15 Donna Ybarra #2 Becky Heagle #3 Jan Murphy #2 Cindy Renshaw #11

I’m going to stress the importance of verifying your scorecard for the correct score and the correct hole by hole before signing and turning in to the committee.
After it is turned in scores are final.

The Pro shop has not yet announced our play days for next month.

Cindy and Annette

Advisory Board

Some of the comments below are specific to questions some of you asked me, but I’m going to include them here:

  1. Suggestion was made to add holes to the mats at the driving range, then we can use the rubber tees and people won’t be tempted to use the grass.
  2. White tee markers are coming as well.
  3. French fries in the restaurant were changed recently due to changes from the supplier.
  4. Weekly play dates – still not committing to every week due to tee sheet being busy and not everyone doubling up on carts.
  5. Suggestion was made to get a water/ice machine outside the pro shop. Mark will look into it.
  6. Suggestion was made to add misters on patio. Mark will look into it.
  7. Discussed flags on the greens often being cockeyed. Chris will look into this.
  8. Bunkers – a priority right now. Greenside bunker on 10 being worked on next Mon/Tues. He is aware of all the bunkers issues and is working on fixing them.
  9. Flag sticks can be taken out now if you want.
  10. Rough around the greens has been raised a little, this also helps with growth of the grass.
  11. Weather permitting (wind under 10 mph), weed spraying to be done next week.
  12. Discussed communication to members about events so they know if the tee sheet will be available or not.
  13. Pro shop clothes – orders were placed but items are late in arriving.
  14. Suggestion made to trim the tree on the left approaching the 9th green. When the crew comes out to take out the tree next to it, they will look into this.
  15. Rough height has been increased by 1/4 inch. Fairways are looking great and greens are repairing nicely.
  16. Suggestion was made to have a Mixed Invitational.
  17. Carts will continue to be repaired for now. New carts would mean an increase in cart fees.

Regards,

Donna

2021 Rules Quiz #1

1) What does the term “Through the Green” mean?
A) Everywhere on the course

B) Just in the fairway

C) Nothing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct answer is C. Nothing.  Since January 2019 the term Through the Green no longer exists. The new term is “The General Area”

 

2) What does the term “The General Area” mean?

A) Everywhere on the course

B) The rough and bunkers only

C) The entire course except, the teeing area the player is playing from, all penalty areas, all bunkers and the putting green of the hole the player is playing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct answer is C.  Many Rules only apply to the “General Area” so it is important for you to know its correct name and Definition.

 

3) In a Tournament what is the penalty if you show up late for your tee time?

A) The general penalty, two strokes

B) Disqualification

C) No penalty, they are just happy to see you….

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The correct answers are A and B.  However it depends on the timing.  If you  are NO MORE than 5 minutes late you will get a two stroke penalty, answer A.  If you are more than 5 minutes late you will be disqualified, answer B.

 

4) In a Tournament what is the penalty if you tee off before your tee time?

A) The general penalty, two strokes

B) Disqualification

C) No penalty, again……… they are happy to see you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The correct answers are A and B.  The same Rule applies to teeing off late and early. The Conditions of the Competition apply equally.  No more than 5 minutes early, two strokes, more than 5 minutes early disqualification.  A player being late or early is penalized the same.

 

5) What is the Local Rule, Preferred lies (Winter rules)?
A) It allows a player to move their ball whenever they want in the winter

B) It allows the player to move their ball out of abnormal ground conditions on the course that interfere with fair play

C) A player can hit more than one ball until they get the lie they “prefer”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct answer is B. The distance the ball is allowed to be moved is determined by the Committee.  It may be 6 inches, or the length of a score card or sometimes a club length.

 

6) If the Local Rule for Preferred lies (Winter rules) is in place as the course conditions are unsatisfactory where on the course can the player use it?
A) Anywhere they like

B) In the General area

C) In the General area and the rough

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct answer is B.  The General area, cut to fairway height or less.  It is not allowed in the rough.

 

7) When a player use a Rule in Stroke play such as checking if a ball is embedded, or taking relief from aeration holes, or dropping a ball because their went into a penalty area, do they have to announce it to their fellow players?
A) Always or they will be penalized

B) No

C) Only if they think their fellow players can see them

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct answer is B.  Since January 2019 the USGA has eliminated the requirement to announce any actions you may take, or have your fellow players watch your actions using the Rules, EXCEPT for two Rules.  

Playing a Provisional ball, you must announce it to your fellow players before you play your Provisional ball.

Announcing which ball you want to count if allowed when playing two balls because you have doubt how to proceed.  

(In Match play you do need to let your opponent you have incurred a penalty, so if that is the case, you will need to let them know after you take relief.  But, you do not need to inform them before doing so.) 

 

8) Where is a player allowed relief from aeration holes?
A) Anywhere on the course

B) In the General area

C) On the putting green

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct answer is B and C.  

Relief for aeration holes is covered under Local Rule E-4.  The Committee may declare them Ground Under Repair, Rule 16.1b, although relief is not given for stance.  On the putting green relief is only allowed if the ball is in an aeration hole, not on line of play or stance, Rule 16.1d.  Relief in the rough is not allowed.

I hope this helps you.

Hilary

Goodbye rule 3-3

No worries ladies not a second quiz in one day, just important information for you all.
Hilary

GOODBYE RULE 3-3

Yes ladies it’s goodbye to Rule 3-3, and has been since January 2019.  How time flies….

Rule 3-3 allowed a player in Stroke play to play two balls when they were uncertain what to do.  So now we are uncertain, what is a player to do?  Well the informed player knows that the USGA would not abandon us, and all they really did was push Rule 3-3 to the back of the Rules book, and now you can find the exact same Rule under a different number….Rule 20-1c.

Rules Chairs and officials had to know the changed Rules’ numbers since January 2019, and this one is a very important number for you to get correct.  If you want to use this Rule you MUST announce it to your playing partner before you use it, “I’m going to play two balls under Rule 20-1c”   AND you must choose which ball you want to count if that one is played under the Rules.

Why you might ask? Well, if both balls are played under the Rules you can’t choose the one with the lower score to count! Now that wouldn’t be right would it?  Golf is a game of skill but also a lot of luck.

So let’s take you out on the course with Sarah, and go over exactly what she MUST do. Sarah is in the Club Championship and she’s playing better than the field but her drive on the last hole lands exactly in middle of a cart path.

Sarah is not sure; does she take her free relief from the path to the left or the right? She could hit is from where it lies but it’s not an ideal shot for her.

Here we go; this is what she must do.

  1. Sarah announces to her playing partners that she is going to use Rule 20-1c, (NOT 3-3 because since 2019 Rule 3-3 is about “Stroke Play”), and play a second ball.
  2. She tells her playing partners which of the two balls she wants to count IF it is played correctly under the Rules.
  3. She drops each ball, one on left side of the path, the other on the right side of the path, at her closest point of relief, within one club length, no closer to the hole.
  4. She plays both balls until she holes out with both.
  5. She notes the score for both balls, noting which ball’s score she had previously decided she wanted to take. Surprisingly she scores a 5 with both
  6. Sarah is about to write the 5 down on her card and sign it but, because she knows the Rules, she remembers she MUST report the facts to the Committee to decide which ball’s score counts.

This MUST BE DONE EVEN IF THE SCORE IS THE SAME FOR BOTH BALLS!  Why?   Because she put a second ball in play, the Committee must protect the field and ascertain how the hole was played to be sure that she played according to the Rules.

She would have been DISQUALIFIED IF SHE HAD FAILED TO CHECK WITH THE COMMITTEE.

 

  1. The Committee examines the facts, decides that Sarah’s score for the ball she had chosen to count for her score was played according to the Rules. She writes down a 5 on her card, signs the card and wins the Club Championship.

Way to go Sarah, she knew Rule 20-1c, and she wasn’t disqualified.

I hope this helps you,

Hilary

Advisory Board Notes



  1. Bunkers – rakes are still optional. Can take relief if you’re in footprints, as we’ve been doing.
  2. 8 minute tee times – will get there when more people share carts – if you can share either a club cart or your personal cart, please do so.
  3. Jim Kleimer has made and donated a cabinet that will be displayed outside the proshop and will hold news for all the groups (18-holers, Breakers, Sr. men).
  4. Discussed growing up some of the areas around the greens to prevent the ball from running off.
  5. Some areas of the cart path where the concrete is coming up will be fixed.
  6. Organized play – for April still only twice a month.
  7. Pro shop – over the next few weeks should be getting in some new ladies clothes. Plan to have 2 trunk shows this year, one in the spring.
  8. F&B: Opening this Tuesday for lunch (as outlined in the message Mark sent out). There will be an Easter brunch, limited attendance. Will be eliminating take-out on Saturday nights. F&B minimums will be back in place April 1.
  9. Spring kick-off tournament will be April 24.
  10. Entire course has been fertilized. Green aeration starts Monday. Product to treat the crab grass to be applied. New drill seeder to arrive next week. Matting on steps on #8 to be replaced as well as the bridge from #2-3.
  11. Lakes have been treated for aquatic weeds and will all be filled next week.

Wear a mask until you are seated at a table on the patio, or indoors.

Until next time . . .
Donna


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